• Jun
    19

    HHP: Where the Orioles Pitching Development Has Failed


    by MrOrange82

    Warning: massive response ahead. 

    I picked 9.5 fWAR just because that's where the top 100 or so ended when I looked at all years combined (i.e., 2007-2014). So, instead of just producing a raw list, I went through every year, as you suggested, to look at individual seasons that were worth 2.0 fWAR or more from 2007 through 2013. This will give you a large amount of fairly raw data because, well, it's a gigantic amount of data. 

    I tossed out most of the international, straight-to-the-majors types, but I left in a couple (e.g., Chapman) who, IIRC, spent some time in the minors before getting the ML call. Also, some teams benefited from aging vets (e.g., Mariano Rivera...who just wouldn't ever stop throwing, and the Nationals for Expos products), but I left those in, too. It's fair to contest those inclusions, but hey...I gve the Orioles Schilling and Mussina. Further, if you think about it, there was nothing preventing the O's (or any other team, really) from producing one or more long-tenured, productive players with multiple 2.0+ fWAR seasons. It just...hasn't happened in a looong time. Also, some players were tough calls (e.g., Gio Gonzalez, who spent significant MiL time with both CHI and PHI...I gave him to CHI), but nobody was taken away from the Orioles due to MiL hair splitting. 

    Anyway, here's the list of the number of 2.0 fWAR (or greater) seasons that players "produced" by each team have put up in 2007-2013, followed by the total number those seasons for each organization over that period. Brace yourself:

    2007:

    TOR - 2 (McGowan, Halladay)
    BAL - 4 (Maine, Schilling, Mussina, Bedard)
    NYY - 2 (Rivera, Pettitte)
    BOS - 2 (Suppan, Papelbon)
    TBR - 2 (Sonnanstine, Shields)

    KCR - 2 (Soria, Greinke)
    DET - 3 (Cordero, Bonderman, Verlander)
    CLE - 5 (Westbrook, Guthrie, Betancourt, R. Hernandez, Sabathia)
    CHS - 3 (Jenks, Buehrle, Garland)
    MIN - 4 (Lohse, Baker, Silva, Santana)

    OAK - 3 (Hudson, Harang, Blanton)
    LAA - 5 (FRod, Washburn, Weaver, Escobar, Lackey)
    SEA - 4 (Putz, Lowe, King Felix, Meche)
    TEX - 2 (D. Davis, C. Young)
    HOU - 2 (W. Rodriguez, Oswalt)

    WAS - 1 (Vazquez)
    ATL - 2 (Millwood, Smoltz)
    MIA - 3 (Burnett, Penny, Beckett)
    PHI - 1 (Hamels)
    NYM - 4 (Bryd, Bell, Bannister, Kazmir)

    MIL - 2 (Sheets, Gallardo)
    STL - 3 (Morris, Wainwright, Haren)
    CIN - 1 (Belisle)
    PIT - 6 (O. Perez, Batista, Wakefield, Gorzelany, Arroyo, Snell)
    CHC - 4 (Mitre, Zambrano, Hill, Lilly)

    SFG - 3 (Nathan, Lincecum, Cain)
    LAD - 0
    COL - 2 (Cook, Francis)
    SDG - 1 (Peavy)
    ARI - 1 (Webb)


    2008:

    TOR - 3 (McGowan, Litsch, Halladay)
    BAL - 1 (Mussina)
    NYY - 3 (Chamberlain, Rivera, Pettitte)
    BOS - 2 (Papelbon, Lester)
    TBR - 2 (Sonnanstine, Shields)

    KCR - 0
    DET - 1 (Verlander)
    CLE - 3 (Guthrie, Lee, Sabathia)
    CHS - 1 (Buehrle)
    MIN - 7 (Balfour, Blackburn, Lohse, Slowey, Garza, Baker, Santana)

    OAK - 2 (Hudson, Harden)
    LAA - 3 (Saunders, Weaver, E. Santana)
    SEA - 5 (Campillo, Fuentes, King Felix, Lowe, Meche)
    TEX - 3 (D.Davis, Duchscherer, Danks)
    HOU - 2 (Lidge, Oswalt)

    WAS - 2 (R. Johnson, Vazquez)
    ATL - 2 (Millwood, Jurrjens)
    MIA - 4 (Nolasco, Dempster, Beckett, Burnett)
    PHI - 3 (Wolf, Floyd, Hamels)
    NYM - 2 (Kazmir, Pelfrey)

    MIL - 3 (de la Rosa, Eveland, Sheets)
    STL - 2 (Wainwright, Haren)
    CIN - 1 (Volquez)
    PIT - 2 (Wakefield, Arroyo)
    CHC - 4 (Wood, Moyer, Zambrano, Lilly)

    SFG - 3 (Nathan, Cain, Lincecum)
    LAD - 3 (Broxton, Kuo, Billingsley)
    COL - 3 (R. Ramirez, Jimenez, Cook)
    SDG - 1 (Peavy)
    ARI - 1 (Webb)


    2009:

    TOR - 3 (Romero, Carpenter, Halladay)
    BAL - 1 (Bergesen)
    NYY - 3 (Rivera, Hughes, Pettitte)
    BOS - 3 (Papelbon, Pavano, Lester)
    TBR - 3 (Niemann, Shields, Hammel)

    KCR - 1 (Greinke)
    DET - 2 (Scherzer, Verlander)
    CLE - 2 (Sabathia, Lee)
    CHS - 2 (Garland, Buehrle)
    MIN - 3 (Blackburn, Garza, Baker)

    OAK - 6 (Blanton, Zito, Harang, Bailey, Braden, Anderson)
    LAA - 3 (Washburn, Lackey Weaver)
    SEA - 4 (Lowe, Thornton, Piniero, King Felix)
    TEX - 3 (Hunter, Danks, Feldman)
    HOU - 2 (Oswalt, W. Rodriguez)

    WAS - 1 (Vazquez)
    ATL - 4 (Hanson, Millwood, Marquis, Jurrjens)
    MIA - 6 (Penny, Burnett, Dempster, Nolasco, Beckett, J. Johnson)
    PHI - 3 (Wolf, Hamels, Floyd)
    NYM - 2 (Kazmir, Bannister)

    MIL - 2 (Gallardo, de la Rosa) 
    STL - 2 (Wainwright, Haren)
    CIN - 0
    PIT - 3 (Duke, Wakefield, Maholm)
    CHC - 4 (Wuertz, Wells, Zambrano, Lilly)

    SFG - 5 (Nathan, Correia, B. Wilson, Cain, Lincecum)
    LAD - 4 (Broxton, Billingsley, Jackson, Kershaw)
    COL - 1 (Jimenez)
    SDG - 1 (Peavy)
    ARI - 1 (Padilla)


    2010:

    TOR - 5 (Cecil, Braden, Marcum, Romero, Halladay)
    BAL - 1 (Matusz)
    NYY - 3 (Pettitte, Kennedy, Hughes)
    BOS - 4 (Masterson, Pavano, Buchholz, Lester)
    TBR - 2 (Hammel, Price)

    KCR - 1 (Greinke)
    DET - 2 (Scherzer, Verlander)
    CLE - 5 (Betancourt, Guthrie, R. Hernandez, Lee, Sabathia)
    CHS - 3 (D. Hudson, G. Gonzalez, Buehrle)
    MIN - 4 (Slowey, Baker, Santana, Liriano)

    OAK - 3 (Hudson, Anderson, Braden)
    LAA - 2 (Lackey, Weaver)
    SEA - 5 (Thornton, Lowe, Fister, Morrow, King Felix)
    TEX - 4 (Feliz, Dickey, Wilson, Lewis)
    HOU - 3 (Wagner, W. Rodriguez, Oswalt)

    WAS - 1 (Strasburg)
    ATL - 1 (Hanson)
    MIA - 6 (Nolasco, Vargas, Dempster, L. Hernandez, A. Sanchez, J. Johnson)
    PHI - 3 (Hamels, Myer, Floyd)
    NYM - 2 (Bell, Pelfrey)

    MIL - 1 (Gallardo)
    STL - 3 (Garcia, Haren, Wainwright)
    CIN - 3 (Belisle, T. Wood, Cueto)
    PIT - 1 (Gorzelanny)
    CHC - 4 (Zambrano, Lilly, Marmol, Wells)

    SFG - 4 (Sanchez, B. Wilson, Cain, Lincecum)
    LAD - 4 (Kuo, Jackson, Billingsley, Kershaw)
    COL - 2 (Chacin, Jimenez)
    SDG - 1 (Latos)
    ARI - 0


    2011:

    TOR - 4 (Romero, Marcum, Carpenter, Halladay)
    BAL - 2 (Bedard, Britton)
    NYY - 4 (Nova, Rivera, Robertson, Kennedy)
    BOS - 4 (Pavano, Papelbon, Lester, Masterson)
    TBR - 2 (Price, Shields)

    KCR - 2 (Hochevar, Greinke)
    DET - 3 (Porcello, Scherzer, Verlander)
    CLE - 4 (Guthrie, Colon, Lee, Sabathia)
    CHS - 4 (G. Gonzalez, Buehrle, McCarthy, Hudson)
    MIN - 3 (Lohse, Baker, Garza)

    OAK - 2 (Cahill, Hudson)
    LAA - 2 (E. Santana, Weaver)
    SEA - 6 (Lowe, F. Garcia, Pineda, Morrow, King Felix, Fister)
    TEX - 6 (Dickey, Lewis, Danks, Holland, Ogando, Wilson)
    HOU - 2 (Paulino, Oswalt)

    WAS - 1 (Vazquez, Zimmerman)
    ATL - 3 (Beachy, Kimbrel, Harrison)
    MIA - 5 (Vargas, Dempster, Nolasco, A. Sanchez, Beckett)
    PHI - 3 (Worley, Floyd, Hamels)
    NYM - 2 (Niese, Humber)

    MIL - 1 (Gallardo)
    STL - 2 (Garcia, Haren)
    CIN - 1 (Cueto)
    PIT - 0
    CHC - 1 (Marshall)

    SFG - 4 (Romo, Lincecum, Bumgarner, Cain)
    LAD - 2 (Jackson, Kershaw)
    COL - 3 (Francis, Chacin, Jimenez)
    SDG - 3 (Leubke, Peavy, Latos)
    ARI - 1 (Collmenter)


    2012:

    TOR - 1 (Halladay)
    BAL - 1 (D. Hernandez)
    NYY - 2 (Hughes, Kennedy)
    BOS - 1 (Lester)
    TBR - 6 (McGee, Cobb, Moore, Hammel, Shields, Price)

    KCR - 2 (G. Holland, Greinke)
    DET - 4 (Rodney, Porcello, Scherzer, Verlander)
    CLE - 4 (Westbrook, Colon, Sabathia, Lee)
    CHS - 3 (Harrell, Sale, G. Gonzalez)
    MIN - 1 (Lohse)

    OAK - 3 (Hudson, Blanton, Cahill)
    LAA - 2 (Saunders, Weaver)
    SEA - 3 (Morrow, Fister, King Felix)
    TEX - 4 (Wilson, Lewis, Feldman, Dickey)
    HOU - 1 (W. Rodriguez)

    WAS - 4 (Milone, Estrada, Zimmerman, Strasburg)
    ATL - 6 (Chen, Millwood, Diamond, Kimbrel, Medlen, Harrison)
    MIA - 6 (Beckett, Nolasco, Burnett, Dempster, J. Johnson, A. Sanchez)
    PHI - 1 (Hamels)
    NYM - 1 (Niese)

    MIL - 2 (Gallardo, Fiers)
    STL - 3 (Garcia, Lynn, Wainwright)
    CIN - 3 (Chapman, H. Bailey, Cueto)
    PIT - 1 (Maholm)
    CHC - 1 (Samardzija)

    SFG - 3 (Vogelsong, Bumgarner, Cain)
    LAD - 3 (Jackson, Billingsley, Kershaw)
    COL - 0
    SDG - 2 (Latos, Peavy)
    ARI - 3 (Capuano, Parker, Miley)


    2013:

    TOR - 0
    BAL - 1 (Tillman)
    NYY - 3 (Melancon, Nova, Pettitte)
    BOS - 4 (Doubront, Buchholz, Masterson, Lester)
    TBR - 3 (Cobb, Price, Shields)

    KCR - 2 (Greinke, G. Holland)
    DET - 3 (Porcello, Scherzer, Verlander)
    CLE - 3 (Sabathia, Colon, Lee)
    CHS - 5 (N. Jones, Buehrle, G. Gonzalez, Quintana, Sale)
    MIN - 2 (Garza, Liriano)

    OAK - 0
    LAA - 4 (Chatwood, Weaver, E. Santana, Lackey)
    SEA - 2 (Fister, King Felix)
    TEX - 4 (Dickey, Feldman, Wilson, Holland)
    HOU - 1 (Norris)

    WAS - 2 (Strasburg, Zimmerman)
    ATL - 3 (Teheran, Medlen, Minor)
    MIA - 4 (Nolasco, Burnett, J. Fernandez, A. Sanchez)
    PHI - 1 (Hamels)
    NYM - 3 (Pelfrey, Kazmir, Harvey)

    MIL - 1 (de la Rosa)
    STL - 4 (S. Miller, Rosenthal, Lynn, Wainwright)
    CIN - 2 (T. Wood, H. Bailey)
    PIT - 1 (Cole)
    CHC - 2 (Cashner, Samardzija)

    SFG - 2 (Nathan, Bumgarner)
    LAD - 5 (Jackson, Jansen, Stults, Ryu, Kershaw)
    COL - 3 (Nicasio, Jimenez, Chacin)
    SDG - 3 (Peavy, Kluber, Latos)
    ARI - 2 (Miley, Corbin)


    TOTAL: 

    MIA - 34
    SEA - 29
    TEX - 26
    CLE - 25
    SFG - 24
    MIN - 24
    ATL - 21
    CHS - 21
    LAD - 21
    LAA - 21
    NYY - 20
    BOS - 20
    TBR - 20
    OAK - 19
    STL - 19
    TOR - 18
    DET - 18
    CHC - 20
    NYM - 16
    PHI - 15
    COL - 14
    PIT - 14
    HOU - 13
    SDG - 12
    MIL - 12
    WAS - 12
    BAL - 11
    CIN - 11
    KCR - 10
    ARI - 9


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